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Post by mundas on Mar 4, 2009 21:50:47 GMT 1
dirty~meford suggested adding some more stuff to the "thin" 1.03 patch that was released the other day.
what the patch already has: -basic server security (suicide spam blocking, anti wallhack)
what the new patch will have: -additional smaller bugfixes (taunt exploits, etc) -new gamemodes (arena and headball)
the main purpose is the make server administration easier, and to eliminate the need for 3 or 4 different mutators to get your server running properly.
also, the new patch is intended as a community patch. thats why we want to use this thread to collect some suggestions what you want to see in it. so be creative, and we will see wat we can do about it.
edit: a few more questions ill answer ahead: -patch will be fully compatible with 1.0 installations -crashscript fix is not possible -redirected downloads are not possible
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Post by Zyroloth on Mar 4, 2009 23:18:18 GMT 1
I'd say no need for headball.
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Post by ¦ËÑÇLÂV˦Çhrøñîç* on Mar 5, 2009 0:38:11 GMT 1
IMO, except for the AntiTCC and Serverguard that is already included in 1.03 it would be nice if you put the codes together from CoAdmin, Semiadmin&BMgame/Critterkicker, RRA, AntiBbot, AntiZTT etc.. All in all every anti-cheat/exploit you can manage.. Although you could remove the warnings on suicide from RRA if you do since the suicidespam is already limited to 1 suicide with the 1.03 patch. Arena will do as an extra mode IMO.
edit: Would be quite nice if you could check a box to decide whether or not you want runes or not. So plain and simple, add a checkbox in the Server/Rules.. If possible of course. And if you do manage that I think you could add just about everything in that way. Just checking for the shit you want to run.
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Post by Salach on Mar 5, 2009 9:13:36 GMT 1
LINUX SUPPORT
on a serious note - as the chronic said, get every mutator needed for server hostage (semiadmin, serverguard and all that shit) as well as the necessary anti-cheats. loads of people would gladly dl a new rune client if you could set up a server with it by editing only a few settings in the graphical interface.
arena is fuckign annoying with the extra health, promise me that you create a "regular health" option.
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Post by ¦ËÑÇLÂV˦Çhrøñîç* on Mar 5, 2009 11:20:36 GMT 1
That's just arena but making it optionable would be quite nice. As for the Linux, forgot that one. Kinda dumb since I'm thinking about swap my vista for ubuntu
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Post by Trouble* on Mar 5, 2009 12:28:44 GMT 1
- Delete headball, add CTT - suicide spam fix, is it same as RRA? like after a few suicides a ban? that shit should be fixed. - Arena is nice, but did you also include the textures with it? about that, i suggest everyone to run AR-1on1arena-sweetleaf and AR-=[VnB]=Energy (heh) cause u don't need any HoV textures/sounds for those maps. so ppl with lower rune will only be downloading "Arena" like 300 kb. - U should include a different U.Browser, like some of us already changed: Change the Populated servers into 1.00 Servers, which allows u to see all servers of 1.00 in 1 list, including empty Arena and CTT servers. u can change this simply in the rune.ini and search for Ubrowser populated, and change "MinPlayers=1 to Minplayers=0. and also change in Ubrowser.int: [ServerListTitles] UBrowserPopulated=1.00 Servers then everyone can see all servers, even all empty servers in rune. I think that would be alot better for the community cause most ppl only mind joining populated servers else. -Maps: I dont know if you did this already, but including some populated maps that arent in the normal rune map packs, u should add some maps like the following: DM-Bothvar, DM-Gudhem, DM-Misbegotten, DM-Ostara, DM-HudsonR1, DM-1on1Arenav2. so if new guys join servers they dont have to download a bunch of maps that are runned most. which will increase the chance of new ppl playing, cause if they have to download all crap they just think its a crappy game. I guess these tips are all good for a new patch that you can make pc, trouble.
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Post by Salach on Mar 5, 2009 13:42:11 GMT 1
- Delete headball, add CTT hell ye - U should include a different U.Browser, like some of us already changed: Change the Populated servers into 1.00 Servers, which allows u to see all servers of 1.00 in 1 list, including empty Arena and CTT servers. hell ye -Maps: I dont know if you did this already, but including some populated maps that arent in the normal rune map packs hell ye you haf real smart
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Post by ¦ËÑÇLÂV˦Çhrøñîç* on Mar 5, 2009 14:32:25 GMT 1
- suicide spam fix, is it same as RRA? like after a few suicides a ban? that shit should be fixed. Nono, wasn't you on my server when we tried the 1.03? It has ServerGuard and AntiTCC installed already.. No need to add the "suicide-part" from the RRA into the mod, just the rest. Since no harm will be done by suiciding over and over except for ppl's own score, I find it quite unnecessary to add those lines from the RRA.
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Post by mundas on Mar 5, 2009 14:34:30 GMT 1
thanks for all your ideas so far. IMO, except for the AntiTCC and Serverguard that is already included in 1.03 it would be nice if you put the codes together from CoAdmin, Semiadmin&BMgame/Critterkicker, RRA, AntiBbot, AntiZTT etc.. All in all every anti-cheat/exploit you can manage.. Although you could remove the warnings on suicide from RRA if you do since the suicidespam is already limited to 1 suicide with the 1.03 patch. Arena will do as an extra mode IMO. edit: Would be quite nice if you could check a box to decide whether or not you want runes or not. So plain and simple, add a checkbox in the Server/Rules.. If possible of course. And if you do manage that I think you could add just about everything in that way. Just checking for the shit you want to run. as stated above we will try to integrate all admin-related stuff, including a scoreboard that shows you player ids and all the critter commands (you wont need the "mutate" anymore). a MOTD functionality will be added. it will also fix some things that no other mutator currently fixes. suicide will not result in ban. but the number of suicides will be limited. oh, and Target Toggle will not result in a ban anymore. currently, all settings will be changeable in a seperate .ini file. integrating it into the server menu sounds interesting, ill look into that arena is fuckign annoying with the extra health, promise me that you create a "regular health" option. we dont know yet how much we can add/change without breaking the 1.01 compatibility. but rest assured that all new content will be highly customizable. - Delete headball, add CTT - Arena is nice, but did you also include the textures with it? about that, i suggest everyone to run AR-1on1arena-sweetleaf and AR-=[VnB]=Energy (heh) cause u don't need any HoV textures/sounds for those maps. - U should include a different U.Browser, like some of us already changed: Change the Populated servers into 1.00 Servers, which allows u to see all servers of 1.00 in 1 list, including empty Arena and CTT servers. u can change this simply in the rune.ini and search for Ubrowser populated, and change "MinPlayers=1 to Minplayers=0. and also change in Ubrowser.int: [ServerListTitles] UBrowserPopulated=1.00 Servers then everyone can see all servers, even all empty servers in rune. I think that would be alot better for the community cause most ppl only mind joining populated servers else. -Maps: I dont know if you did this already, but including some populated maps that arent in the normal rune map packs, u should add some maps like the following: DM-Bothvar, DM-Gudhem, DM-Misbegotten, DM-Ostara, DM-HudsonR1, DM-1on1Arenav2. so if new guys join servers they dont have to download a bunch of maps that are runned most. which will increase the chance of new ppl playing, cause if they have to download all crap they just think its a crappy game. I guess these tips are all good for a new patch that you can make pc, trouble. ctt will be added. for all new gamemodes we will include a couple of maps. also, we will probably include some hov texture packs (ADFuthark and the like) in case you want to use some hov maps. we cant put the entire hov content into the patch, but adding some of the most used packages is better than nothing. i appreciate the browser-related things you mentioned, we will try to make it as convenient as possible. as i said before, we dont know yet how much game content we can manipulate without breaking 1.00 compatibility. allowing 1.00/1.01 clients to join 1.04 servers is the highest priority. anyway, thanks for all the suggestions till now. keep them coming.
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Post by ¦ËÑÇLÂV˦Çhrøñîç* on Mar 5, 2009 14:38:16 GMT 1
All for now, will think of smthn more.
edit: Please set the LocalMap=intro.run to LocalMap=entry.run as standard so new ppl can download things directly instead of sitting there wondering why they return to the intro when they press a server that they need to DL shit from.
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Post by Trouble* on Mar 5, 2009 15:55:30 GMT 1
thats a good idea i think, intro is not kewl anyways, its better to have enrty indeed, also to see what u are downloading when u join the first server after starting up rune.
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Post by ¦ËÑÇLÂV˦Çhrøñîç* on Mar 5, 2009 16:13:07 GMT 1
Aye. Thing is I doubt anyone who just download it to try it out will continue to play it if the shit won't start.
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Post by iNiDeliverance on Mar 8, 2009 3:24:35 GMT 1
I read through this thread, cause someone recommended I take your mod and change it to what he thought people wanted. My personal reply was that I am already coding my own all in one server mod, and I do not steel other peoples work and mod it like that. I noticed going through this thread some comments and such. As for the modified AR to be a choice.... I have already created that code into my server package. It is possible, and it does not change any version type, other than the modified Arena.um(added AR Settings w/ var config bools) allowing it to max out at 100 health or 200 health. If the real author would like any help on this project feel free to hit me up. Active in my mod at this time(for Rune1.00) Game modes: AR(modified)100 or 200 health/DodgeBall/HeadBall/LGS/TLGS/CTT/Multi/TeamDM Server Protections: Password/SG/Suicide/TCC/ZTarget/WallHack/TauntExploit/the list goes on... There are new scoreboards, new effects, new textures, new skins, and so on... As well as a huge list of admin functions. Almost all of the scoreboards are configured in the .ini file(allowing people to set all of it to the colors of their personal choice). Again... The idea that was brought up about AR having the health choice of 100 or 200 health... IT CAN BE DONE! --- i have it running now on my mod! If you would like any help with this project feel free to hit me up: ini_deliverance@hotmail.com
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Post by Merl* on Mar 8, 2009 4:00:37 GMT 1
sounds nice. Thanks del! Hope to see ini in Rune! miss hylos, bRian, inc, kasp, and such! oh and some us player bring back the real morblood/bain!
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Post by ¦ËÑÇLÂV˦Çhrøñîç* on Mar 8, 2009 11:12:18 GMT 1
Woohoo, I see the light.
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